Check back on this live blog through the day for the latest from the House Intelligence Committee.
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8:30 pm. And after over 11 hours, the hearings are adjourned. We will be back in the morning for Gordon Sondland. His name was mentioned so many times today.
7:30 pm. Rep. Swalwell D-CA presses Morrison over the President asking for investigations of the Bidens. Swalwell uses a line that Republicans have used on witnesses - that they don't make foreign policy, but President Trump does. Morrison says he heard the President ask Ukraine to investigate the Bidens; Morrison says he never asked Ukraine to do the same. Swalwell basically says you aren't supposed to be making foreign policy.
7:20 pm. Volker has had to acknowledge several times that he just didn't understand exactly what Giuliani was getting at - which was investigating the Bidens and the debunked conspiracy theory of Ukraine interfering in the 2016 elections.
Key admission today from Volker: "In retrospect, I should have seen that connection [between Burisma and Biden] differently, and had I done so, I would have raised my own objections. It was unacceptable."
— Heath Mayo (@HeathMayo) November 19, 2019
This is an admission from Republicans' witness.
7:00 pm. Volker says he tried to get Rudy Giuliani to tone down the demand for the Ukraine government to specifically promise certain investigations sought by President Trump, Giuliani did not embrace the idea, saying Ukraine had to mention Burisma/Hunter Biden and the 2016 election. Volker said a written statement was dropped, and may have been replaced by the idea of an interview by the leader of Ukraine on CNN instead, though that never happened. “The messages conveyed by Giuliani were a problem,” Volker said.
6:40 pm. Rep. Devin Nunes R-CA has several times today called these proceedings a 'drug deal.' The irony is that the phrase 'drug deal' in the Ukraine investigation came from former Trump National Security Adviser John Bolton, who told subordinates to stay away from the actions of Rudy Giuliani in Ukraine, with regard to issues of investigations sought by President Trump.
.@RepDevinNunes to @RepAdamSchiff: "People just aren't buying the drug deal that you guys are trying to sell."
— CSPAN (@cspan) November 19, 2019
Watch LIVE here: https://t.co/tjNfeXGIo7 pic.twitter.com/ssO6tr883M
6:30 pm. Schiff pressing Morrison over why he went to NSC lawyers after the July 25 call. Morrison said he was worried about the call leaking - but didn't think there was anything wrong with the call. Democrats say that's hard to square.
So, Morrison is saying that he saw no problem with the call, he was only worried about it leaking, so he went directly to a lawyer.
— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) November 19, 2019
6:15 pm. Morrison testifies that he kept a close eye on Gordon Sondland's work re: Ukraine, and did not embrace push on investigations requested by President Trump from Ukraine. It's clear right now that Sondland's testimony on Wednesday morning could be very interesting.
People close to the Trump administration say Sondland is the hearing they're most concerned about ahead of time. Sondland testifies tomorrow.
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) November 19, 2019
5:55 pm. During the break, Rep. Mark Meadows R-NC was talking with reporters, a normal kind of thing. C-SPAN has lots of cameras here, so they popped into the scrum as well. That was going out live - when Meadows says he wants to go off the record. That doesn't work when there is a live broadcast.
“Let me go off the record for just a second,” Mark Meadows tells a scrum of reporters, apparently not realizing he’s being broadcast live on C-SPAN3. pic.twitter.com/AJ2nMLEcMJ
— Connor O'Brien (@connorobrienNH) November 19, 2019
5:45 pm. The committee is taking one more break. Next up are questions from lawmakers on the panel. This isn't scientific, but most of the talk right now around the hearing room is about testimony tomorrow of Gordon Sondland. Volker and Morrison have not been as interesting as Vindman and Williams this morning.
5:25 pm. Volker was supposedly going to be a GOP witness. But his testimony on the 'investigations' isn't exactly what the White House might want to hear. Volker says he saw nothing credible about the various conspiracy theories (Crowdstrike, etc) that Ukraine interfered in the US elections in 2016 - those have been embraced by President Trump.
5:15 pm. The last half hour has reinforced what Democrats have often been arguing, that Rudy Giuliani's work in Ukraine to stir up various conspiracy theories, which resulted in President Trump asking for investigations by the Ukraine government, had stalled US-Ukraine relations. “We had gotten nowhere,” Volker said.
4:45 pm. Morrison continues to give the Democratic counsel answers which Democrats will be pleased to talk about. For example, Morrison says he went to NSC lawyers after phone calls with Ambassador to the EU Gordon Sondland in September, which made clear (to Morrison) that the aid to Ukraine was being held back while waiting on the investigations asked for by the President in July.
4:30 pm. Morrison has been talked about a lot by GOP lawmakers today, especially as a way to push back against Vindman from this morning. But watching and listening to Morrison here in the hearing room, he seems a bit uncomfortable in this setting. Volker does not.
4:15 pm. As he talks repeatedly about the issues surrounding Ukraine and President Trump, Volker keeps referring to 'conspiracy theories' pressed by Giuliani which filtered down to President Trump. Volker quoted the President as saying he was hearing bad things about Ukraine's government from Giuliani.
4:00 pm. Volker is certainly not going to see his testimony tweeted out by the White House.
Rep. Adam Schiff: "Why was it that you found the allegations against Joe Biden ... not to be believed?"
— This Week (@ThisWeekABC) November 19, 2019
Amb. Kurt Volker: "Simply because I've known former Vice President Biden for a long time. I know how he respects his duties of higher office." https://t.co/QfMpJlStvo pic.twitter.com/mTuRVEVFGU
3:55 pm. Kurt Volker testifies that he struggled to get President Trump to set a meeting with the leader of Ukraine, blaming it on a deeply negative view of Ukraine, which was fueled by information coming from the President's personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani.
3:35 pm. Tim Morrison testifies first. He has a very short statement, and is testifying in a voice that is hard to hear. He's going to get a lot of attention today from GOP lawmakers, who have used his deposition to try to undercut Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman.
3:25 pm. The gavel has sounded, as the hearings are getting underway again. The witnesses today are former National Security Council official Tim Morrison, and Kurt Volker, an ex-US special envoy to Ukraine.
2:30 pm. The afternoon hearing was originally set to start by now, but because of the House floor schedule, the afternoon part of the impeachment hearings may not begin until around 3:15 pm. And depending on what happens on the floor, it could slip further.
In the meantime, many photographers have left their cameras by the witness table, staking out their spots.
2:00 pm. Judging from the tweets by the White House, Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman might need to find a new place of employment, rather than the National Security Council. And that might go for his brother, too.
🚨#ICYMI: Lt. Col. Vindman was offered the position of Defense Minister for the Ukrainian Government THREE times! #ImpeachmentSHAM pic.twitter.com/8Gx3tzIHzQ
— Dan Scavino Jr.🇺🇸 (@Scavino45) November 19, 2019
Anyone listening to Vindman stammer through this seemingly trying to remember the Catch Phrases he was well coached on should get that.
— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) November 19, 2019
He’s a low level partisan bureaucrat and nothing more. https://t.co/5KobcaJKgL
1:40 pm. Part one of today's hearing is over. The next two witnesses, Kurt Volker and Tim Morrison are scheduled to start testifying at 2:30 pm.
1:25 pm. Vindman works at the White House. The official White House Twitter account has already had one post about him today - and now another.
Tim Morrison, Alexander Vindman's former boss, testified in his deposition that he had concerns about Vindman's judgment. pic.twitter.com/xwHOt4bsHS
— The White House (@WhiteHouse) November 19, 2019
1:22 pm. Asked again about the July 25 Trump-Ukraine call, Vindman said, "Frankly, I couldn't believe what I was hearing." He said he immediately reported it to the NSC lawyer because it "was my duty." Some applause after that line of questioning finished.
1:10 pm. One interesting note about that line of questions from the GOP. Vindman says the NSC lawyer told him not to talk to anyone about the call - not immediately - but later, after Vindman raised red flags. That's why Vindman says he did not tell his direct boss, Morrison.
1:05 pm. Republicans at today's hearing have repeatedly criticized Vindman for going to the top lawyer for the National Security Council immediately after the July 25 call, instead of his direct boss, Tim Morrison - who will testify later today. Here's how GOP lawmakers are making that case on Twitter today.
LTC Vindman, a field grade Army officer, did not notify his chain of command - but instead went directly to a lawyer to discuss the call. Clearly, he violated the chain of command.
— RepScottPerry (@RepScottPerry) November 19, 2019
12:50 pm. A needed light moment as Rep Joaquin Castro D-TX talks about being a fellow identical twin, like Vindman and his brother. Castro jokes about being asked to grow a beard - which he did so people wouldn't think he was his brother, the Presidential candidate, Julian Castro.
Rep. @JoaquinCastrotx to Lt. Col. Alex Vindman: "It's great to talk to a fellow identical twin. I hope that you brother is nicer to you than mine is to me and doesn't make you grow a beard." pic.twitter.com/4LnhrTyWTY
— CSPAN (@cspan) November 19, 2019
12:40 pm. Here is some video from President Trump.
President Trump on @SpeakerPelosi: "The woman is grossly incompetent. All she wants to do is focus on impeachment."
— CSPAN (@cspan) November 19, 2019
Full video: https://t.co/BlQAnsnTbl pic.twitter.com/CmJJUng4F3
12:20 pm. From earlier - when Rep. Jordan intimated that superiors thought Vindman was leaking information about Ukraine.
Rep. @Jim_Jordan: "You never leaked information?"
— CSPAN (@cspan) November 19, 2019
Lt. Col. Alex Vindman: "I never did, never would. That is preposterous that I would do that."
Watch LIVE here: https://t.co/4flJQm1g62 pic.twitter.com/7CmkYM61UY
12:10 pm. News is being made at the White House on several fronts by President Trump.
12:00 pm. Rep. Jim Jordan R-OH all but accused Vindman of being a leaker, raising questions about what his superiors thought of his job performance. Vindman denied he had ever leaked anything, and quickly read from his last performance review by former White House aide Fiona Hill, who testifies on Thursday. Jordan moved on.
@Jim_Jordan Jordan just dropped his line of questioning about Fiona Hill having concerns about Lt. Col. Vindman's judgment -- when Vindman read aloud from his performance review from Fiona Hill saying he was best Army officer she worked with in 18 years and had stellar judgment.
— Carol Leonnig (@CarolLeonnig) November 19, 2019
11:55 am. Democrats ask Jennifer Williams about a tweet from President Trump on Sunday, in which he assailed Williams, and called her a “Never Trumper.”
"It certainly surprised me. I was not expecting to be called out by name,” Williams told lawmakers.
Here is the tweet.
Tell Jennifer Williams, whoever that is, to read BOTH transcripts of the presidential calls, & see the just released ststement from Ukraine. Then she should meet with the other Never Trumpers, who I don’t know & mostly never even heard of, & work out a better presidential attack!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 17, 2019
11:50 am. The White House quickly turns around that exchange, and posts it on the official White House Twitter account.
"I've never had any contact with the President of the United States." pic.twitter.com/dunhYyAXhK
— The White House (@WhiteHouse) November 19, 2019
11:20 am. Last questions for Vindman just before a short break in the hearing. Did you ever talk to Giuliani? No. Did you ever discuss Ukraine with President Trump?
Vindman: "I have never had any contact with the President of the United States."
11:10 am. Asked by the GOP counsel, Vindman says Ukraine officials actually offered him the job of Defense minister of Ukraine at one point. Vindman says he immediately reported it to his superiors and intelligence officials.
"The whole notion is rather comical."
11:05 am. The GOP counsel walked Williams through a number of questions for why Vice President Pence scrapped a planned trip to Ukraine for the inauguration of the new leader, President Zelensky. Instead, Pence went to Canada for an event on the US free trade deal with Mexico and Canada.
If Castor questioning had intended to reduce suspicions about why Trump canceled Pence attendance at Zelensky inauguration, it backfired.
— Laura Rozen (@lrozen) November 19, 2019
10:50 am. Rep. Nunes: "Mr. Vindman, you testified at your deposition that you did not know the whistleblower."
Vindman: "Ranking member, it's Lt. Col. Vindman, please."
Rep. Devin Nunes refers to Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman as "Mr. Vindman."
— ABC News (@ABC) November 19, 2019
"Ranking member, it's lieutenant colonel Vindman, please," Vindman responds. https://t.co/wJIckfThSv #ImpeachmentHearings pic.twitter.com/kjORGMuMa8
10:45 am. We have just had our first real witness skirmish over the identify of the Ukraine whistleblower. Nunes asked Vindman who he told of the July 25 call. Vindman said there were two people outside the White House; he refused to ID the person in the intelligence community.
Nunes is saying Vindman can "plead the fifth" or answer questions about who he specifically talked to about the call.
— Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) November 19, 2019
Vindman and his attorney say Vindman will not answer specific questions about who he talked with bc of rules by Rep Schiff to protect whistleblower's identity.
10:40 am. Nunes acknowledges that Williams and Vindman are the first 'firsthand' witnesses to testify about the Trump-Zelensky phone call. Nunes asking both witnesses if they spoke with any reporters or knew of leaks. Both answer in the negative.
10:35 am. Republicans are now starting their 45 minutes of questioning. Rep. Nunes immediately goes into questions surrounding Burisma and Hunter Biden.
10:20 am. The Democratic counsel is walking both witnesses through the July 25 call in detail, getting them to repeat their concerns about the call. These are the first witnesses to testify who heard the actual phone call. GOP lawmakers outside the hearing room are not impressed.
Yet another game of wordsmith.
— Rep. Jody Hice (@CongressmanHice) November 19, 2019
One more time for the folks in the back, here's the call transcript: https://t.co/q4rm9IdFGq
No mention of a "demand."
There's no quid pro quo.
There's nothing there. https://t.co/fgzLYJfZjg
9:55 am. We have had our first witness refuse to answer a question in these hearings. The lawyer for Williams won't let her answer a question about a phone call between Vice President Pence and the leader of Ukraine.
Schiff asked directly about a September call between Zelensky and Pence, but Williams' attorney steps in and says she cannot answer questions about it in open session. Significant as I believe it is the first time a lawyer is blocking a question in public hearing.
— Lauren Fox (@FoxReports) November 19, 2019
9:45 am. Vindman on the May 25 Trump-Zelensky call: "It is improper for the President of the United States to demand a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and a political opponent."
Lt. Col. Alex Vindman: "On July 25, 2019, the call occurred. I listened in on the call in the Situation Room with White House colleagues. I was concerned by the call, what I heard was improper, and I reported my concerns..."
— CSPAN (@cspan) November 19, 2019
Watch here: https://t.co/4flJQm1g62 pic.twitter.com/pjYIVRXmhY
9:40 am. Williams repeats her deposition testimony that she found the May 25 Trump-Zelensky call unusual, "because in contrast to other Presidential calls I had observed, it involved discussion of what appeared to be a domestic political matter."
9:35 am. Both witnesses have been sworn in. Williams starts first. Schiff pointedly noted she worked for the 2004 Bush campaign.
9:30 am. Nunes wraps up his opening statement. He did not mention either of the two witnesses sitting before the panel.
9:20 am. Rep. Devin Nunes R-CA begins his statement by criticizing the press for impeachment coverage. "This is the same preposterous reporting the media offered for three years on the Russia hoax." Nunes says the news media is nothing but “puppets of the Democratic Party.”
9:17 am. Vindman spoke about his family during his opening statement.
"Do not worry. I will be fine for telling the truth.”
— Bloomberg TicToc (@tictoc) November 19, 2019
Col. Vindman addressed his father, a refugee who came to the U.S. from the Soviet Union 40 years ago, during his opening statement to Congress pic.twitter.com/oXSL29iaZ1
9:15 am. Sitting behind the witness table is Vindman's brother. Ironically, film maker Ken Burns interviewed them as young boys about how their family made it to the United States.
As @pbump of @washingtonpost unearthed today, Army Lt. Col. Vindman, who is testifying before Congress today, was featured as a young boy in the @KenBurns Academy Award-nominated doc "The Statue of Liberty" in 1985.
— UNUMKenBurns (@UNUMKenBurns) October 29, 2019
Watch the full clip on UNUM here: https://t.co/aLDj0Fpjsx pic.twitter.com/QAMe6BjkAL
9:10 am. Schiff starts by warning the audience against audible outbursts. It's probably a reaction to the cheers at the end of Friday's hearing with former Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch.
9:05 am. It is very quiet in the hearing room as Vindman and Williams sit down at the witness table. No one talking. And I mean, no one is talking. All you here is the clicking of shutters from the still photographers. It's an odd feel.
9:00 am. The public is filing in. The press section is filled. We are waiting for the witnesses to arrive. Here is a shot of the news media tables. Standing up on the far side in the middle is veteran AP reporter Al Fram, who like me, has seen a lot on Capitol Hill.
8:55 am. If you want to read through the past testimony of today's witnesses, the deposition of Jennifer Williams is here - she is a State Department employee detailed to the staff of Vice President Pence.
The deposition link of Alexander Vindman is here.
8:45 am. One of the witnesses today is National Security Council staffer, Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, who raised concerns up his chain of command about the President's July 25 phone call with the leader of Ukraine. It has resulted in questions about Vindman's personal security, as well as that of his family. The Wall Street Journal reports that Vindman may be moved to a military facility, just in case.
The U.S. Army is monitoring Vindman’s security and is prepared to move him and his family to a local military base if necessary following his impeachment testimony. https://t.co/JKV8ERtzOg pic.twitter.com/ZhJSxwoZ8Q
— Ben Pershing (@benpershing) November 19, 2019
8:30 am. I'm seated over in my same spot, alongside the technical people for the C-SPAN TV coverage, and the still photographers from a variety of news organizations, who run a unique cooperative effort to take and distribute photos quickly from the hearing. Every person in this business is different in how they prepare for their job. Washington Post staff photographer Melina Mara was working just in front of me for a few minutes - and I snapped a picture of her laptop, which has a series of items attached with Velcro to the computer to help do her job.
8:20 am. The angling for position is underway around the witness table, as still photographers and videographers stake out their positions to get the initial shot of the witnesses arriving at the table for this hearing. If you are watching as the hearing begins, you will see a big mass of people all around the table, and then the gavel will fall, and photographers will be shooed away. It will be much more crowded by 9 am ET.
8:05 am. One thing to watch for today is whether President Trump decides to make an 'appearance' in this hearing via Twitter. On Friday, his tweets about former Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch totally changed the hearing - and frankly, it also undermined whatever media strategy Republicans had developed for that hearing. One of the witnesses today, Jennifer Williams, who is a State Department employee detailed as a foreign policy adviser to Vice President Mike Pence, has already been targeted by the President on Twitter. Will he repeat it as she is testifying?
Tell Jennifer Williams, whoever that is, to read BOTH transcripts of the presidential calls, & see the just released ststement from Ukraine. Then she should meet with the other Never Trumpers, who I don’t know & mostly never even heard of, & work out a better presidential attack!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 17, 2019
8:00 am. There are four witnesses today. Three are scheduled for Wednesday. Two more witnesses on Thursday. Tuesday and Wednesday feature separate morning and afternoon sessions. Frankly, I don't know how today (Tuesday's) two hearings can finish before around 8 pm, even if the proceedings begin at 9 am. There will be breaks for votes on the floor of the House at least two different times today, as lawmakers vote on a stop gap funding plan to keep the government from running out of money, extending that spending until December 20 - to avoid a government shutdown at the end of this week.
7:45 am. Once again, I will have a seat in the historic Ways and Means Committee hearing room, where the impeachment hearings are being held - but like my youth spent at Tiger Stadium in Detroit, I will have an obstructed view of the proceedings. I have a great view of the witness table from the side of the room - but unfortunately, the lawyer for one of the witnesses usually blocks my view. And then, there is a giant television screen which has been brought in for visuals - that sits right between me and the dais. Since I'm in radio, I am used to looking down and listening, and that's what I will get to do again today.
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