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By Doug Harris, Staff Writer 7:32 PM Monday, November 23, 2009

The University of Dayton dropped out of both major college basketball polls into the “others receiving votes” category Monday, Nov. 23. And unless some struggling starters regain last season’s form, the Flyers may have trouble getting back into that lofty territory.

Marcus Johnson had a season-high 14 points in an 83-75 loss to Kansas State on Sunday, but his outside shot has been AWOL. A preseason second-team All-Atlantic 10 pick, the senior guard is just 1-for-15 on 3-pointers and 5-for-14 from the foul line.

Point guard London Warren was second in the A-10 in assist-turnover ratio last season, finishing with 154 dishes and 66 miscues in helping the Flyers finish 27-8. But he has almost as many turnovers (13) as assists (17) in four games for the 2-2 Flyers. And Rob Lowery, essentially a co-starter last year at the point, is expected to get the OK soon to test his reconstructed knee in game situations, but he’s still going to need time before getting extended minutes.

“We have a couple guys who have not played well at all,” UD coach Brian Gregory said. “We’ve got to get those guys playing better and respond to some of the deficiencies we’re showing.”

The biggest shortcoming has been rebounding. The Flyers emerged from the Puerto Rico Tip-Off Classic with a two-game losing streak, mostly because they were bludgeoned on the boards. They were outrebounded by a total of 28 by KSU, Villanova and Georgia Tech.

“We’ve played four top-30 teams probably (opening against Creighton), and we haven’t played well,” Gregory said.

“In the past, we’ve been able to match up pretty well. One of the reasons is we usually embrace that physical game when you have to defend with your chest and rebound with your hips and knock some people around.”

Next Game

Who: Dayton (2-2) vs. Towson (1-1)

When: 2 p.m. Saturday

TV: None

Radio: WHIO-AM (1290) and WHIO-FM (95.7)

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I think that all have made very good predictions of UD. They should win the A10 but you still have to beat Xavier, its not gonna be a walk in the park. We are struggling with Warren and with Kurt. I like his multi purpose and the boxing out but lets face it Kurt has not given us anything else, a guy like that is not a starter but a sub that can give good minutes to a real starter. When we play sub par teams he still does not dominate games. Warren is a turnover waiting to happen. Sorry!!

flyer hoops fan
8:30 AM, 11/28/2009

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UD runs no consistent offensive
they dont know how to get shots
for Chris Wright.And they play out
of control basketball;They can win the
weak A10 but not a major contender;I see
them winning A10 out first game NCAA again;

I watched UC the other night They have the
best basketball team in Ohio;
Hope they Flyers learn had to run and Offense
and set picks for shots;

jason
9:13 PM, 11/26/2009

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I really like Kurt, but when looking at the real numbers, he should not be playing.
At some point he needs to add points and rebounds.
His best year was his So.(2007-2008) averaged 4.0 rebounds and 5.9 points.
4 games this year..Rebounds 2.5 per game and 1.3 points.
I think the coach sees it too, because Kurt is only getting 17 minutes per game.
I wish Kurt would do more because I like him, but numbers say it all.
Facts:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/playe...

Steve
8:48 PM, 11/25/2009

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The RPI means nothing in November. Not enough games played to have any accuracy.
Critics of Kurt need to stop watching the ball. If that's all you watch, you will never see how well Kurt plays. Georgia Tech may have been one of his best games as a Flyer. He physically dominated the paint. Next time London Warren grabs a rebound and starts a break, take a look at who made space for him to get the rebound. Kurt's roll is not as a scorer. He is the ultimate team player.

Jeff
11:05 AM, 11/25/2009

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Beating 2 out 4 top 40 teams w/o Lowery is not a bad start. The real test will be at Miami and at George Mason. They win those games on the road and they will be right where they need to be, around 25th in the country. Beating Villanova was not a realistic prediction without Lowery. If Lowery is 100%, then they would be 4-0 right now. Relax fans, he will be there in March and they will be in the dance.

DoctorFlyer
10:33 PM, 11/24/2009

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