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By shanice

April 6, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

please be a litttle more poetic

By Enough Already

March 19, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

I’m sure Mr. Perkins’ resignation will prove to be a tremendous loss to the district. He is an excellent educator, and the students will suffer in the loss of his guidance. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but those of you who used this forum to take “pot shots” at Mr. Perkins are deplorable. If you don’t have anything constructive to say, keep it to yourselves MORONS (Oh, sorry, was that a “pot shot”?)

By Enough Already

March 19, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

No,his resignation was NOT good for the district,as I’m sure time will tell. He should have never been disciplined in the matter. It just served as a means for people to unfairly judge him. If you have a problem with erotic poetry - DON’T READ IT. It is poetry, fiction, creative expression; it has nothing to do with the man’s character or morals. Also, don’t blame Mr. Perkins if you don’t monitor your children’s web activities.

By Rus Bowden

March 16, 2008 9:32 PM | Link to this

You don’t cause someone this much grief for writing poetry.

Someone please check the list of poets who are in David Lehman’s anthology “The Best American Erotic Poems”

http://www.simonsays.com/content/book.cfm?tab=1&pid=591349&agid=3

It begin with Francis Scott Key who wrote our national anthem.

It is the School Board that needs to resign now.

Keep writing, Karl Perkins, and keep dedicating yourself to education.

Yours, Rus Bowden http://poetryandpoetsinrags.blogspot.com/

By AMY

March 16, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

MY SON IS A STUDENT @ SOUTH AND HE VERY PROUDLY SIGNED THE PETITION TO HAVE MR PERKINS REINSTATED! THAT MAN HAS THE RIGHT TO HAVE A LIFE OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL. I AM SURE ALL OF YOU DO WITH YOUR JOBS!?! AS LONG AS IT WASNT INTERFEARING WITH HIS TEACHINGS OR HIS JOB THEN WHERE WAS THE PROBLEM AND WHERE DO ALL OF YOU GET THE RIGHT TO JUDGE? I THINK THE WHOLE SCHOOL BOARD IS JACKED UP, THE REAL PROBLEM IS HARPER BUT SHE IS STILL THERE WHILE THE REST OF THEM ARE DROPPING LIKE FLIES!!!!

By AMY

March 16, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

I MYSELF FIND THIS ENTIRE SITUATION WITH MR PERKINS INCREDIBLY RIDICULOUS. MY SON IS A STUDENT AT SOUTH HIGH AND HE VERY PROUDLY SIGNED THE PETITION TO HAVE MR PERKINS REINSTATED!! YES I BELIEVE THAT TEACHERS SHOULD BE HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD, BUT MR PERKINS IS AND WAS ENTITLED TO HAVE HIS OWN PERSONAL LIFE OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL. HE DID NOTHING TO BRING HIS “PERSONAL LIFE” INTO THE SCHOOL AND INTERFEAR WITH THE STUDENTS!!!

By someone who knows!!! all is not well in someones home

March 16, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

not a personal vendetta as you put it, she is a hard worker at Wittenburg but she is just trying to make a name for herself at the expense of Mr.Perkins her home life is all that she presives it to be and instead of tryinng to ruin his career she needs wto worry about her homefront.

By William

March 15, 2008 8:29 PM | Link to this

Why the attacks against Mrs. Pickleshimer? Sounds like a personal vendetta not at all connected to this issue.

By someone who knows!!! all is not well in someones home

March 15, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this

Yes I agree we need to all be of high moral standards, he who lives in a glass house may cast the first stone. I know of certian members of the school board who’s homes are not as harmoniously as they would have others to beleive,one such member is Mrs. Picklesimer. be careful of what you preach.

By Tomas

March 15, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

If persons in education are to be held to a higher standard, then they deserved to be paid at a much higher level.

By Sharon Ray-Cassedy

March 15, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

I guess we now will have to question everyone and say “are you of high moral standing enough to be a parent?” My God. Where is our free speech?!?!? To judge one’s moral standing in a situation such as this, then we must judge parents as well if we are going down this path. Right???!!!

The student who has access to this website…why did his parents allow him to access it if this indeed was so explicit and horrible.

It starts here people…and then it will wind up in your own back yard.

By Sharon Ray-Cassedy

March 15, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

I guess we now will have to question everyone and say “are you of high moral standing enough to be a parent?” My God. Where is our FREE SPEECH? To judge one’s moral standing in a situation such as this, then we must judge parents as well, if that is the path you want to travel. Right?

The student who has access to this website, why did his parents ALLOW him to access it, if this indeed was so explicit and horrible.

It starts here people…and then it will wind up in your own back yard.

By John

March 15, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this

Excuse me? How dare the Board of Education spend MY tax money to buy his contract out and pay for his lawyer for a total of over $30,000 and then have to make cuts to get within budget?

What the heck is that all about? Someone owes the taxpayers an explanation as to how that lawyer could have possible accrued $10,000 in charges in less than 3 weeks.

By TIRED OF THE BABBLE

March 15, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

I FEEL BAD FOR MR PERKINS, WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR FREEDOM OF SPEACH AND AND THE POWER OF THE PRESS.sPRINGFIELD CITY SCHOOLS ARE TAKING AWAY OUR FREEDOMS. DONNA PICKLESIMER IS TRYING TO MAKE NAME FOR HERSELF BUT IN MY OPINION SHE NEEDS TO GO BACK MAKING BREAD AND DOING BAKE SALES WITH HER KIDS. THE PEOPLE REALLY SCREWWED TEHMSELVES OVER WHEN THEY VOTED HER IN SHE IS LETTING HER POWER GO TO HER HEAD!!!

By commonsensegal

March 15, 2008 1:10 AM | Link to this

SCOTT No I do not make my self out to be of a higher moral authority, but I do have high moral standards, I consider it a professional responsibility. Don’t you want the teachers who work with your children everyday to be of high moral standing? Are you aware that there is a morals clause in our state licenses? I believe that people should set the bar high for their children’s teachers, professionally, educationally, and morally.

By Nurse101

March 14, 2008 11:42 PM | Link to this

Why are we blaming someone for exercising freedom of speech? Clearly his “poetry” was not intended for students in the district, nor was he writing under the name he is known by in the district. Please someone, explain to me why we aren’t asking the parents of the kid who brought the offensive material into school where they were while the kids were on the internet.

By Sweet

March 14, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this

matt.. When you write a book you can use whatever name or title that you want..He choose Versus..It was his choice !! But you can tell from your postings that you probably dont read much…especially poetry…I have been published myself…I do know what I am talking about.You are just blowing hot air..

By ex-Springfielder

March 14, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this

Well I hope you all are quite proud of yourselves. Another perfect example of to hell with the person’s talent or usefulness to the community. If we don’t agree with you even if we’re wrong, we will find enough people who agree to tar and feather you and hang you from the highest tree. It is also an example of stupid judgemental behavior. It’s not about the poor children…it’s aboutperception, the need to be right and crucify someone for it in the name of someone’s perceived rights.

By wow

March 14, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this

the complete lack of intelligence in this city is amazing.

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March 14, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this

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By laughinatyou

March 14, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this

I hope the community sees how unfair the treatment of Mr Perkins has been. Investigation?? Now thats funny. The police have already investigated the other prinicipal and caught him red handed. What was the result of that investigation? He was moved to another school to steal medicine from those student and was caught again. Investigate the SCS Human Resources Dept allowing things like this to continue to happen. But if you write a book your an idiot and you should be fired and ran out of town.

By laughinatyou

March 14, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this

Im laughing at all of you South High School teachers on here calling Mr Perkins names and saying he was this and that. It can only be yall making those comments, but the funny thing is nobody is talking about Renkiewitz or whatever his name is. He has been stealing medicine from the students and had that mentioned in his personnel file. Now thats an idiot! Staeling the last time I check was against the lawwriting poetry isnt. I hope yall drag him through the mud the same way!

By LaToya

March 14, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this

I do not agree with the SCS board decision to dismiss Karl Perkins from his position. It sends a fearful message to educators that they are not allowed a private life. If this vote and action sets a precedence, then expect more teachers and educators will be ousted for simply having a hobby. What about teachers who gamble online? What about teachers who attend happy hours, wine tastings, brew beers in their basements? Are teachers allowed to do online dating? Where is the limit?

By news sun reader

March 14, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

Where is the concern and outrage over the other suspended SCS principal? Have we all forgotten about him? He’s being investigated for stealing a student’s medication…isn’t this a bit more pressing than writing erotic poetry? Where’s all the coverage and hoopla about this criminal investigation?

By Matt Algren

March 14, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

I’m starting to think the people who call us dumb redneck hicks without the sense God gave us might be onto something.

I wish Mr. Perkins hadn’t cut a deal, but I can’t really blame him. I wouldn’t want to work in that kind of environment either. Unfortunately, now the school district (and more importantly, the legal system) won’t have to deal with privacy rights of educators.

Well, at least not until the next teacher does something in harmless for people to get outraged about.

By cityschoolfan

March 14, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

That is the a start. We need to continue to oust city school administration and get down to earth people that are good at what they do and are appropriately evaluated. The only thing I would do different is start at the top. Do you think harper would leave for 20k??

By SKY

March 14, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

PERSONALLY I THINK THAT IT WAS HANDLED IN THE PROPER WAY, BUT IT REALLY WASN’T THAT SERIOUS. YOU CAN GET MAD AT A PERSON FOR EXPRESSING THEMSELVES. HE IS A GROWN MAN WHO EXPRESSED HIMSELF WITH WORDS. ONLY GROWN-MINDED PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND.YOU CAN’T KNOCK HIM FOR THE WAY HE SPELLED HIS WORDS. I THINK THAT THIS SITUATION MADE SOME LIKE CHILDISH AND OTHERS UNDERSTOOD HIS FORM OF ART.

By SCOTT

March 14, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

COMMONSENSEGAL, Mr. Perkins did nothing wrong. If a student found the work on the internet and brought it to school then that student should be reprimanded. Since when does being a teacher hold you to a higher moral authority than the rest of us? Would it have been ok if I wrote the poetry and a student brought it to school. Would you be calling for my job as well. Freedom of Speech is Freedom of Speech no matter who you happen to be!!

By torchlight

March 14, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

Karl Perkins should have been ran out of town on a rail. He’s a disgusting person with no class. It is simply unbelievable what they paid to get rid of someone like him. He should have been fired.

By chuckles

March 14, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

Yeh, right,

First of all, the parent contacted the school two days  after a member of Dr.Harpers office was contacted. And here is a comment for exp2000@msn.com. You think I or others plotted to get rid of Perkins? Are you a comedian or what. The only reason Perkins is out of a job is because of Perkins. It's nothing more than that.

By matt

March 14, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

Sweet- You are the dummy if you think that “either is correct.” Also, I think that you give the poet far too much credit. Using the Latin origin of “verse” as a substitute does not make sense, especially because “versus” literally means “turning”, which is absurd considering the context in which it is used. I think it’s more likely that the poet is a bad speller, rather than a brilliant etymologist with no skill in basic grammer.

By ms lady

March 14, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

i wonder how many of you have read or sat in your home watch the tv and listen to the songs and not just the beat. you are going to far when you want to end this man’s career, and as far as the school board you need to look at your self.

By give me a break

March 14, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

Listen “Chuckles” … read this quote from Springfield News Sun Wed. March 12

The district learned of the poems through a parents’ e-mail stating her “disgust” over the words contained in a book of poems titled “Love Songs and Sex Versus, Vol 1.”

That’s where I got my info!

By cpncerned

March 14, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

Chuckles, I really think you and a few others plotted/started all this mess… Excuse me. Perkins wrote the poetry but I believe you used it as a way of retaliation. You comments hint at there being a personal vendetta. We need to be mindful when we seek to destroy another person. Did you do this because of your compassion for South and the community of Springfield? Are your comments a reflection of your concern for SCS and the community at large?

By commonsensegal

March 14, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

Nancy, are you serious? So as professional educators we should lower our standards because, “The things kids watch on television and listen to on their ipods and watch on UTube are much, much more offensive.” Wow, that is probably the worst argument I have listened to in a long time. So do you as a parent have pornography around the house just because, “The things kids watch on television and listen to on their ipods and watch on UTube are much, much more offensive.”? Please!

By chuckles

March 14, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

Listen “give me a break” It was Perkins who told the student about the website. This happened at school. The student went to the site at school with some friends. They thought it was inappropriate and went to a teacher who reported Perkins.

By matt

March 14, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

foster - your comparison of this situation to the US govt’s trial of the Rosenbergs is non-sensical. I took your post to mean that Mr. Perkins was treated unfairly. Considering your use of the Rosenbergs as an analogy, one may properly conclude that you also believe the Rosenbergs were treated unfairly. Therefore, I concluded that you must sympathize with their Soviet benefactors. My conclusion was valid— or your post was the result of intellectual laziness or some other mental deficiency.

By give me a break

March 14, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

Where was the parent of this poor little child when he was “surfing the net”… I wonder what he was searching for when he found erotic poetry? homework help?

By Not important

March 14, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

When you become an educator you are held to a higher standard. Any school board would examine and dismiss on this issue, as an expectation of the community. Sex related issues are always judged by the community expectations in different ways. The first admendment protects freedom of speech but does not protect teachers / administrators from not exercising good moral values. I feel the board acted as they should.

By chuckles

March 14, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

All these comments for Perkins. Until you have read his Erotic Poetry, you cannot voice a true opinion. If you have read this crap and still support Perkins, then you have a problem. He was in a position of authority and broke the trust of his peers and students. Remember, it was a student who brought this to the attention the administration. He is an idiot!!!

By Nancy

March 14, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

This is all just crazy. The things kids watch on television and listen to on their ipods and watch on UTube are much, much more offensive. This poetry just can’t hold a candle to MOST of that junk. Having to listen and watch the presidential political junk is a WORLD more offensive!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have a nice weekend!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Nancy

March 14, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

This is all just crazy. The things kids watch on television and listen to on their ipods and watch on UTube are much, much more offensive. This poetry just can’t hold a candle to MOST of that junk. Having to listen and watch the presidential political junk is a WORLD more offensive!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have a nice weekend!!!!!!!!!!!!

By drojr

March 14, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

To bad Mr Perkins HAD to resign, oh by the way STUDENTS of South remember if you turn 18 before the next school board election you can vote to remove the board members who need to go anyway. As will many people who believe the board members have been there to long and do not have the interest of the students staying in school.

By commonsensegal

March 14, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

Scott, I have to disagree with you on a couple of things. Yes, our freedom of speech is vitally important, but when it involved a child who downloaded the erotic poetry and brought it to school, then it became inappropriate and unprofessional. If he hadn’t associated his name and picture with his pen name, there wouldn’t have been an issue. I don’t think it’s the liberals, how about the bible thumping conservatives that have a moral issue with the poetry.

By Scott

March 14, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

What Mr. Perkins did does not affect his ability to do his job and did not endanger the students he is paid to administrate. Once again the liberals of Springield feel it necessary to be judge and jury when Mr. Perkins is clearly protected by Freedom of Speech. Maybe the school board thought this issue would take the pressure off the current issues they have with their embroiled administrator. If I was Mr. Perkins I would sue them for every dime they have!!! This town is a joke.

By RJ

March 14, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

Sweet, thanks for clarifying regarding “versus” and “verses”. I truly thought he mispelled the word due to ignorance. I now understand that he is one of these blow-hard types that try to throw around obscure words to appear sophisticated.

If he truly meant to use the Latin, he should have spelled the entire title in Latin. You cannot convey an archaic meaning of a word when it is still in common usage for an entirely different thought concept. Then again, he’s not a real author.

By oh my

March 14, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

“scummy douchebag” aahhh… the eloquence of a Springfield Hick

By RJ

March 14, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

Sweet, thanks for clarifying regarding “versus” and “verses”. I truly thought he mispelled the word due to ignorance. I now understand that he is one of these blow-hard types that try to throw around obscure words to appear sophisticated.

If he truly meant to use the Latin, he should have spelled the entire title in Latin. You cannot convey an archaic meaning of a word when is still in common usage for an entirely different thought concept. Then again, he’s not a real author.

By commonsensegal

March 14, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

I think it was in the best interest of the children and the district to offer that settlement. I believe that it was wrong for SCS to pay his attorney fees. Mr. Perkins acted unprofessionally in regards to his poetry and I feel that he did the right thing by resigning. I wonder if he will be reported to the Ohio Department of Education for his mis-conduct? I beleive his career in education is over.

By Take the Money & Go Karl

March 14, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

Bye, bye! Pervert gets bought out so he can take his trash to another school district. See you later Karl…you scummy douchebag.

By cpncerned

March 14, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

How many of you really know what he did? Have you read the poetry? Heard his side of the story? It is amazing how quickly we pass judgement on another person without knowing the truth. The allegations have changed slightly each time a story has been written. Most of you that are commenting don’t even know the truth. You probably still think Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or will any excuse do?

By Ken

March 14, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

Please…….the man was wrong to have done it because teachers are held to a higher standard. They always have. He should have kept it to himself at home.

By cpncerned

March 14, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

This is just the beginning of a new and brilliant chapter in your life Perkins. The obstacles that you have overcome and the tenacity required to overcome them are strengths that are at the foundation of your character. I pray regardless of how the community of Springfield has sought to destoy your integrity you were able to pass on the part of you that has allowed you to be the awesome man that you are now. You have change lives. The fruit of your labor will be seen for generations.

By T

March 14, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

Once again, I’m so glad that I got out of this town!

Mr. Perkins! You do you! Take care and God Bless! You will succeed! You already have!

A word of advice,

Take your family out of that God forsaken place and go somewhere where your talents and spirit will be appreciated!

Be Blessed!

By Christine

March 14, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

Well Congrads to Springfield City School District for once again screwing something up! You know your wrong that’s why you are paying the Mr. Perkins to leave, or maybe you don’t want a lawsuit. I hope that you can sleep well at night! I shall remember this when election time comes for the board members, and I have no respect for anyone on the board nor Ms. Harper! When do the witch Ms. Harper get fired, her own staff doesn’t respect her! Hummm! Mr. Perkins, once again, best of luck to you!

By foster

March 14, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

Matt—- I made no such suggestion. I only tried to draw a comparison between an over zealous senator (Joseph McCarthy) and the Springfield City School Board. If you had bothered to read and understand the comment, you might have drawn the proper conclusion.

By Sweet

March 14, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

verse
Pronunciation: \ˈvərs\ Function: noun Etymology: Middle English vers, fers, from Anglo-French vers & Old English fers, both from Latin versus, literally, turning, from vertere to turn — Date: before 12th century He is using the Old English spelling like theatre or theater either is correct…So who is the dummy now Matt or J

By matt

March 14, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this

foster— why do you love the rosenbergs? soviet archives released after the disintegration of the soviet union confirmed that the rosenbergs sold the atomic bomb to the soviets. do you love the soviets too? 30 million dead ukranians and other eastern europeans? the iron curtain? the berlin wall?

By foster

March 14, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this

All of this crap about Mr Perkins reminds of the 1950s and the Great Communist Purge. Teachers, librarians, books, plays, actors, the Rosenbergs, etc…. I wonder wnich of the school board members took their lead from that disgraced Senator Joseph McCarthy. The Springfield City School Board, Also known as Witch Hunters Incorporated.

By chuckles

March 14, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this

Ha, Ha, Ha,

We have to pay a guy for screwing up. We have to pay his attorney!! Run him out of town. Henry Wadsworth longfellow, William Bryant, Walt Whitman, Edgar Allen Poe. These are poets. Perkins writings are trash. He is not a professional.

By Cheryl

March 14, 2008 8:00 AM | Link to this

Good Luck Mr. Perkins! Maybe you can write about the anal retentive, narrow minded, holier than though characters of Springfield! You’ll have a lot of material!

I hope you make it big … Oprah’s book club big !!

By matt

March 14, 2008 7:47 AM | Link to this

Dude don’t know how to spell “verses.” How’d he get an education degree anyway?

By poohla

March 14, 2008 7:25 AM | Link to this

This is just another example of someone trying to make something of themselves only to be held back by society.

Good luck Mr. Perkins I hope you become a big time famous author and prove to SCS and the City of Springfield that even if you write sex poems you are still worthy of your rights!

By JJ

March 14, 2008 7:13 AM | Link to this

I agree with Kevin K. Perkins published under a pseudonym to insure no students would read his poems. Like him, I would have (wrongly, as it turns out) believed that was adequate protection. Trouble is, kids are so internet-savvy these days, they can find anything. Regardless, no one should dictate what U.S. citizens can write in their free time.

By Walt

March 14, 2008 6:44 AM | Link to this

Does South have a copy of Whitman’s “Leaves of Grass” on its shelves?

Then we’d better hurry up and fire the librarian before more hilarity ensues.

By bill

March 14, 2008 2:04 AM | Link to this

Big city, big lights.

Springfield is ripe for the pickings if you want to come here, hide your old baggage, screw up again, then go to another “funny farm”.

Perkins will move on and he will get in trouble again. If he wasn’t guilty of insubordination, why was he only given a pittance of his remaining contract? Hell, his lawyer made a quick $10K off this 3-week charade.

Your tax dollars at work once again.

By Kevin K

March 14, 2008 1:08 AM | Link to this

uhhhh….am i missing something here? He is a teacher…..he wrote a book…..because of his current profession and the fact the book had some explicit material, he used an alias so he would not embarrass the community….and has no history of misconduct. So next you’ll tell me that a springfield teacher was caught having sex in her home with her husband…..and her resignation is being asked for by the community…..gimmie a break!!

By j

March 14, 2008 1:05 AM | Link to this

Good riddance Dr. Luv. Go to another depressed school district with a “diversified” super, and watch as the frilly panties run.

BYW - it’s “verses”, not “versus”. Must have been public school educated and have a B.S. degree in B.S.

Now let’s get rid of the other remora before we have to pay them off too.

Thank you Ed.