This all falls back on George Sodders. He didn’t wouldn’t couldn’t get it done!He could care less. He hired all the people from ARC no one else did the hiring. George likes to surround himself with people who build his ego and tell him that he is great. What a joke. He can’t even go to the office and take care of this mess. He should do the decent thing and resign. He is not capable of doing this job! He is a master at being a SPIN DOCTOR. He never takes the blame. He didn’t do the job!
I almost forgot: I did a little fact check of my own. On March 4th, Mr. Marshall’s letter referenced that the auditor was going to hire Carol Snyder to strighten out the “mess” with the revaluation. Well guess what…Carol Snyder is also a former employee of ARC. It wasn’t hard to figure out, I just called the company in Findlay and they told me that she used to work there. I asked if she too was fired, but they declined to answer any more questions. Is anyone else but me scratching their head?
I also heard that Nikki Crawford is another former ARC employee that left under none too friendly of circumstances. Why do these unhappy ARC castoffs end up in our county? Why did our auditor hire them? When I first read the story about overvalued homes, I did get a little excited. But now that I’m starting to learn more about the “accusers”, I beginning to wonder if Mr. Marshall and Ms. Crawford didn’t cook something up to get back at ARC?!?!?!
Someone in a previous post said that Mr. Marshall worked for ARC when the contract was signed for the revaluation. A friend of mine said that he heard that Mr. Marshall was asked to leave ARC. I’m starting to wonder if Mr. Marshall isn’t just stirring the pot to get back at his former employer? It seems like he’s been the “deepthroat” that the paper gets its inform from. Curious.
MR SODDERS
BREAK OUT YOUR RESUME. IT IS GONNA NEED SOME WORK.
MR METZGER, YOU MAY WANT TO REVIEW YOURS AS WELL. ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER CLARK COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
IT IS TIME FOR A CLEAN SWEEP
FED UP!
Well, here it is the 28th of March and I have until the 31st to appeal this outrageous appraisal of my property. Is this because the Governor dropped taxes for seniors and the county is looking for money to replace the “drop”? As a Senior citizen on a fixed income, you may rest assured that my vote in the next election will be to REPLACE those in office now who supported this inequity!! My tax break the Governor “gave” me ended up costing me more tax on my home. Just call me….
FED UP!!
You want the property tax to go down ?
Well here is how we get that done.
First and foremost stop supporting the city and county schools with property tax. Innact an increase in the sales tax to support the schools, that way everyone pays a fair share to support the schools. Also you wont hear the schools begging for more money at every election. Let every one support our fine school system in a manner it deserves.
Some body messed up and the public is having to pay the cost of someones mess.
What I would ask is why would you go out of the county to get an Apraisor ? Who knows the true value of the property here in Clark County ? Answer is a person who lives ,works , and plays in Clark County. They knew if they got a local to assest the true market value of the properties most of them would have went down. That my friends is the bottom line.
The ‘smell’ coming out of Lynn Marshall’s desk next to the bathroom is the fact that Lynn Marshall was the Market Director for ARC when the Auditor signed the contract.
I built a home 3 years ago in a brand new development in New Carlisle. We have gone through 3 builders, and now the whole property is up for AUCTION! I know 3 people that have looked to build, but they found out taxes, and turned around. When we built, bank estimated tax, because nothing had been built yet in area yet. And since we moved in, much higher taxes, house value up near $15000 with SEVERAL forclosures in neighborhood due to TAXES!!! Tax break=growth…Raise taxes=forclosures
I built a home 3 years ago in a brand new development in New Carlisle. We have gone through 3 builders, and now the whole property is up for AUCTION! I know 3 people that have looked to build, but they found out taxes, and turned around. When we built, bank estimated tax, because nothing had been built yet in area yet. And since we moved in, much higher taxes, house value up near $15000 with SEVERAL forclosures in neighborhood due to TAXES!!! Tax break=growth…Raise taxes=forclosures
My $72,500 home is now valued at $131,000 with no improvements and there are foreclosures in my area which brings the property value down on the surrounding houses.
To Yikes comment on 3/27/08- property taxes are payable to the County Treasurer Stephen T. Metzger, not George Sodders. I do agree that George Sodders should be accountable and should be responsive to the media.
Dear Al,
We heard what Lynn Marshall said on March 4th. We are listening and watching every single move that Sodders makes. We are waiting for our own appeals to be heard and then we will move in. As long as Sodders sits on the Board of Revisions, we are all in jeopardy. We intend to address Sodders and we intend to fight for Lynn Marshall. We believe the County Commission, while trying to “stay out of it”, could help him (Lynn Marshall). This is something that will also be addressed.
I have been to the Auditors office 4 times in the past month. I feel sorry for the employees there, they are exhausted. Guess who I have not seen one time. You guessed it, George is missing! Come forth Mr. Sodders, in our time of mass confusion, we need a “leader”. Go Lynn Marshall!
Sodders just keeps lying to the public, In an article released in the New Carlisle Sun today, Sodders stated that the review that was just done was “very comprehensive” He is full of it ! my 87,000 home has had no improvments yet it is now worth $103,000 ? Yet a home valued at over $300,000 in New Carlisle drops in value what is wrong with this picture, be an honest George instead of of dishonest one !!!
I stand corrected, thank you kyle seems as if those of who have higher valued homes took less of hit than those of us with homes of less value It’s still wrong and Sodders needs to go, along with the County Commission, they are insuring our taxes stay high to protect the County and it’s employees, reductions need to be made in Government to go along with the SLUMP in the economy, not raise taxes to keep Government afloat
“Tax” wrote:
“The numbers still look funny, one of the nicest homes in new carlise 300 linden ave appraised $301,910 in 2006 dropped 14% in 2007 to $296,210 very few if any of the old section of new carlise homes…”
Sorry but a drop from $301k to $296k is only a 1.4% drop not 14%… dropping $5k and dropping $50k is a big difference.
But I do agree that all the number look funny and it does sound like the appraisal were done from a hotel room like the News Sun reported
Sodders has been there how many years “running” the Auditor’s office???? Shouldn’t he now the rules/law from the department of taxation????
Sodders himself approves the values before submitting them to the state for approval, so he already knew the differences unless he just rubber stamps everything??
“Tax” wrote:
“The numbers still look funny, one of the nicest homes in new carlise 300 linden ave appraised $301,910 in 2006 dropped 14% in 2007 to $296,210 very few if any of the old section of new carlise homes…”
Sorry but a drop from $301k to $296k is only a 1.4% drop not 14%… dropping $5k and dropping $50k is a big difference.
But I do agree that all the number look funny and it does sound like the appraisal were done from a hotel room like the News Sun reported
Please remind readers from other counties that you must file the complaint in the county in which the property is located in. The public also needs to verify the hours of each county auditor.
One of the reasons I sold my business in Springfield, 9 years ago and sold my home in Clark County 3 years ago, is the fact of all the stone walling, overtaxed, and declining ecomomy of Clark County in general. The citizens of Springfield and Clark County, have a perfect right to march on city hall, march on the county offices, call the news media, organize a recall of George Sodders, and raise all the hell you can, loud and clear, that you will not stand for this kind of treatment any longer.
What? Sodders did not return calls when the newspaper seeked his comment?! This is unacceptable of a public servant at a time of mass confusion. Remember this next time you see his name on the ballot. Sodders also informs tax payer to put his name on our checks to his office, and does not print in his notices that writing the check to “Clark County Auditor” is an option. Hummm….
Did you heed the warning? On March 4th, in the Opinion section A8 of the SNS, Lynn Marshall wrote a letter that should have awakened the property owners of Clark County and motivated us to do something. Not complain, not reiterate the obvious but to take action by filling an appeal. Ms. Marshall, I want to thank you for your looking after the citizens of Clark County, and hope your situation is addressed soon.
I’d like to have available on the auditors site the $$$ value they have put on property. I went to their office to get answers and came out as much if not more confused. THEY made the mistake and WE have to fix it? Remember this the next time you vote. IF your name is on the list they know there is something wrong so FIX IT!
I went to the auditors office a month ago and they told me that my property was valued correctly. Now my name is on the list as being over valued. Luckily I can go down and appeal it. Unfortunately my neighbor’s name is on the list for overvalued and she won’t be able to appeal it do to her being out of town.
Even though my name is not on the list of “overvalued” properties, how can I check my value they have put on my home, does anyone know this? Is there a way to check it on-line? I would appreciate any help you can give me on how to do this. Thanks :)
Do the elected officials in Clark County, Springfield, New Carlisle, and all the other mini fifedoms think ALL of the residents of this county are druken, crack heads who can have the wool pulled over their eyes. Come on people stand up for your rights get rid of these dinosaur officials
The numbers still look funny, one of the nicest homes in new carlise 300 linden ave appraised $301,910 in 2006 dropped 14% in 2007 to $296,210 very few if any of the old section of new carlise homes appear on either list, most of the new carlise addresses are in the township not the city proper what a scam this is
An increase of 10-15% is not outrageous, and in fact, probably accurate. The problem is with the system. Property values for tax year 2007 are calculated based upon data from 2004-2006. All over the country values were high during that time, and fell during 2007. If we revalued every year, your taxes would have slowly climbed the past 3 years, and next year would fall. Many other states are going through the exact same thing.
We purchased our property in June of last year for 25,000, the auditor has it appraised at 39,600, up from about 34,500 in 2006. About a 12.5 increase in value in less than 1 year.
File an appeal of your property tax appraisal. The City or County is not going to help. The values are wrong, and based on faulty information. If everyone appeals maybe someone will wake up.
I checked my house with the comparisons given during purchase three years ago. Mine is 26k more in value than the purchase comparisons. I then checked what they used for comparisons and they used properties sold in the western part of Clark county and I live about a mile south of County Line Rd. Banks would not accept these comparisons why should Sodders get away with it.
Where in the world do you have houses in Springfield that are overvalued. What a joke. Everything there is old. They must be talking about the houses that are in the North end of town that were built in the 70’s & 80’s were the so called rich people use to live.
Where in the world do you have houses in Springfield that are overvalued. What a joke. Everything there is old. They must be talking about the houses that are in the North end of town that were built in the 70’s & 80’s were the so called rich people use to live.
Ironic - on the street that I live on, 2 of the “overvalued” houses are the (according to the Auditor’s web site)the only 2 that are undervalued. Simply Ironic………
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By lew
March 29, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
This all falls back on George Sodders. He didn’t wouldn’t couldn’t get it done!He could care less. He hired all the people from ARC no one else did the hiring. George likes to surround himself with people who build his ego and tell him that he is great. What a joke. He can’t even go to the office and take care of this mess. He should do the decent thing and resign. He is not capable of doing this job! He is a master at being a SPIN DOCTOR. He never takes the blame. He didn’t do the job!
By Enon
March 29, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this
Judging by the time Ebenezer submitted his comments he likely had a snootful. I wonder if he was driving a county car as well?
By ebenezer
March 29, 2008 1:24 AM | Link to this
I almost forgot: I did a little fact check of my own. On March 4th, Mr. Marshall’s letter referenced that the auditor was going to hire Carol Snyder to strighten out the “mess” with the revaluation. Well guess what…Carol Snyder is also a former employee of ARC. It wasn’t hard to figure out, I just called the company in Findlay and they told me that she used to work there. I asked if she too was fired, but they declined to answer any more questions. Is anyone else but me scratching their head?
By ebenezer
March 29, 2008 1:03 AM | Link to this
I also heard that Nikki Crawford is another former ARC employee that left under none too friendly of circumstances. Why do these unhappy ARC castoffs end up in our county? Why did our auditor hire them? When I first read the story about overvalued homes, I did get a little excited. But now that I’m starting to learn more about the “accusers”, I beginning to wonder if Mr. Marshall and Ms. Crawford didn’t cook something up to get back at ARC?!?!?!
By ebenezer
March 29, 2008 12:55 AM | Link to this
Someone in a previous post said that Mr. Marshall worked for ARC when the contract was signed for the revaluation. A friend of mine said that he heard that Mr. Marshall was asked to leave ARC. I’m starting to wonder if Mr. Marshall isn’t just stirring the pot to get back at his former employer? It seems like he’s been the “deepthroat” that the paper gets its inform from. Curious.
By ramherdr
March 28, 2008 9:14 PM | Link to this
MR SODDERS BREAK OUT YOUR RESUME. IT IS GONNA NEED SOME WORK. MR METZGER, YOU MAY WANT TO REVIEW YOURS AS WELL. ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER CLARK COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. IT IS TIME FOR A CLEAN SWEEP FED UP!
By ramherdr
March 28, 2008 9:04 PM | Link to this
Well, here it is the 28th of March and I have until the 31st to appeal this outrageous appraisal of my property. Is this because the Governor dropped taxes for seniors and the county is looking for money to replace the “drop”? As a Senior citizen on a fixed income, you may rest assured that my vote in the next election will be to REPLACE those in office now who supported this inequity!! My tax break the Governor “gave” me ended up costing me more tax on my home. Just call me…. FED UP!!
By Donald Hatfield
March 28, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this
You want the property tax to go down ? Well here is how we get that done. First and foremost stop supporting the city and county schools with property tax. Innact an increase in the sales tax to support the schools, that way everyone pays a fair share to support the schools. Also you wont hear the schools begging for more money at every election. Let every one support our fine school system in a manner it deserves.
By Donald Hatfield
March 28, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this
Some body messed up and the public is having to pay the cost of someones mess. What I would ask is why would you go out of the county to get an Apraisor ? Who knows the true value of the property here in Clark County ? Answer is a person who lives ,works , and plays in Clark County. They knew if they got a local to assest the true market value of the properties most of them would have went down. That my friends is the bottom line.
By Jeff Randall
March 28, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this
The ‘smell’ coming out of Lynn Marshall’s desk next to the bathroom is the fact that Lynn Marshall was the Market Director for ARC when the Auditor signed the contract.
By Brian
March 28, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this
I built a home 3 years ago in a brand new development in New Carlisle. We have gone through 3 builders, and now the whole property is up for AUCTION! I know 3 people that have looked to build, but they found out taxes, and turned around. When we built, bank estimated tax, because nothing had been built yet in area yet. And since we moved in, much higher taxes, house value up near $15000 with SEVERAL forclosures in neighborhood due to TAXES!!! Tax break=growth…Raise taxes=forclosures
By Brian
March 28, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
I built a home 3 years ago in a brand new development in New Carlisle. We have gone through 3 builders, and now the whole property is up for AUCTION! I know 3 people that have looked to build, but they found out taxes, and turned around. When we built, bank estimated tax, because nothing had been built yet in area yet. And since we moved in, much higher taxes, house value up near $15000 with SEVERAL forclosures in neighborhood due to TAXES!!! Tax break=growth…Raise taxes=forclosures
By Charles
March 28, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this
Very insightful headline. Did you guys have to go to college for that?
By ck
March 28, 2008 6:48 AM | Link to this
My $72,500 home is now valued at $131,000 with no improvements and there are foreclosures in my area which brings the property value down on the surrounding houses.
By barb frey
March 28, 2008 5:42 AM | Link to this
why can’t we get the addresses of property ,amount of taxes for year ,what the house is valued at? etc.
By barb
March 28, 2008 5:29 AM | Link to this
Why can’t I get the list of propertyThat tells you everything like what your taxes are? what your house is valued at taxes etc.
By Mary
March 27, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this
To Yikes comment on 3/27/08- property taxes are payable to the County Treasurer Stephen T. Metzger, not George Sodders. I do agree that George Sodders should be accountable and should be responsive to the media.
By we know
March 27, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this
Dear Al, We heard what Lynn Marshall said on March 4th. We are listening and watching every single move that Sodders makes. We are waiting for our own appeals to be heard and then we will move in. As long as Sodders sits on the Board of Revisions, we are all in jeopardy. We intend to address Sodders and we intend to fight for Lynn Marshall. We believe the County Commission, while trying to “stay out of it”, could help him (Lynn Marshall). This is something that will also be addressed.
By pj
March 27, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this
I have been to the Auditors office 4 times in the past month. I feel sorry for the employees there, they are exhausted. Guess who I have not seen one time. You guessed it, George is missing! Come forth Mr. Sodders, in our time of mass confusion, we need a “leader”. Go Lynn Marshall!
By PJ
March 27, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this
Do you know who is on the Board of Revisions? George Sodders! Hey Mr. fox, can I have my chicken back now? What a joke!
By John
March 27, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this
Sodders just keeps lying to the public, In an article released in the New Carlisle Sun today, Sodders stated that the review that was just done was “very comprehensive” He is full of it ! my 87,000 home has had no improvments yet it is now worth $103,000 ? Yet a home valued at over $300,000 in New Carlisle drops in value what is wrong with this picture, be an honest George instead of of dishonest one !!!
By Tax
March 27, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
I stand corrected, thank you kyle seems as if those of who have higher valued homes took less of hit than those of us with homes of less value It’s still wrong and Sodders needs to go, along with the County Commission, they are insuring our taxes stay high to protect the County and it’s employees, reductions need to be made in Government to go along with the SLUMP in the economy, not raise taxes to keep Government afloat
By Kyle
March 27, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this
“Tax” wrote: “The numbers still look funny, one of the nicest homes in new carlise 300 linden ave appraised $301,910 in 2006 dropped 14% in 2007 to $296,210 very few if any of the old section of new carlise homes…”
Sorry but a drop from $301k to $296k is only a 1.4% drop not 14%… dropping $5k and dropping $50k is a big difference.
But I do agree that all the number look funny and it does sound like the appraisal were done from a hotel room like the News Sun reported
By J Co
March 27, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
Sodders has been there how many years “running” the Auditor’s office???? Shouldn’t he now the rules/law from the department of taxation????
Sodders himself approves the values before submitting them to the state for approval, so he already knew the differences unless he just rubber stamps everything??
By Kyle
March 27, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
“Tax” wrote: “The numbers still look funny, one of the nicest homes in new carlise 300 linden ave appraised $301,910 in 2006 dropped 14% in 2007 to $296,210 very few if any of the old section of new carlise homes…”
Sorry but a drop from $301k to $296k is only a 1.4% drop not 14%… dropping $5k and dropping $50k is a big difference.
But I do agree that all the number look funny and it does sound like the appraisal were done from a hotel room like the News Sun reported
By J Co
March 27, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this
Please remind readers from other counties that you must file the complaint in the county in which the property is located in. The public also needs to verify the hours of each county auditor.
By Michael J. Pavelka
March 27, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this
One of the reasons I sold my business in Springfield, 9 years ago and sold my home in Clark County 3 years ago, is the fact of all the stone walling, overtaxed, and declining ecomomy of Clark County in general. The citizens of Springfield and Clark County, have a perfect right to march on city hall, march on the county offices, call the news media, organize a recall of George Sodders, and raise all the hell you can, loud and clear, that you will not stand for this kind of treatment any longer.
By yikes
March 27, 2008 7:45 AM | Link to this
What? Sodders did not return calls when the newspaper seeked his comment?! This is unacceptable of a public servant at a time of mass confusion. Remember this next time you see his name on the ballot. Sodders also informs tax payer to put his name on our checks to his office, and does not print in his notices that writing the check to “Clark County Auditor” is an option. Hummm….
By AL
March 27, 2008 7:11 AM | Link to this
Did you heed the warning? On March 4th, in the Opinion section A8 of the SNS, Lynn Marshall wrote a letter that should have awakened the property owners of Clark County and motivated us to do something. Not complain, not reiterate the obvious but to take action by filling an appeal. Ms. Marshall, I want to thank you for your looking after the citizens of Clark County, and hope your situation is addressed soon.
By Barb
March 27, 2008 6:02 AM | Link to this
I’d like to have available on the auditors site the $$$ value they have put on property. I went to their office to get answers and came out as much if not more confused. THEY made the mistake and WE have to fix it? Remember this the next time you vote. IF your name is on the list they know there is something wrong so FIX IT!
By poohla
March 27, 2008 1:18 AM | Link to this
I went to the auditors office a month ago and they told me that my property was valued correctly. Now my name is on the list as being over valued. Luckily I can go down and appeal it. Unfortunately my neighbor’s name is on the list for overvalued and she won’t be able to appeal it do to her being out of town.
By Bob
March 26, 2008 11:13 PM | Link to this
All the information you need is accessible here: http://www.gis.co.clark.oh.us/
Click the big “Search” button to look for your property.
By Kathy
March 26, 2008 10:18 PM | Link to this
Even though my name is not on the list of “overvalued” properties, how can I check my value they have put on my home, does anyone know this? Is there a way to check it on-line? I would appreciate any help you can give me on how to do this. Thanks :)
By Chuck
March 26, 2008 8:36 PM | Link to this
Do the elected officials in Clark County, Springfield, New Carlisle, and all the other mini fifedoms think ALL of the residents of this county are druken, crack heads who can have the wool pulled over their eyes. Come on people stand up for your rights get rid of these dinosaur officials
By Tax
March 26, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this
The numbers still look funny, one of the nicest homes in new carlise 300 linden ave appraised $301,910 in 2006 dropped 14% in 2007 to $296,210 very few if any of the old section of new carlise homes appear on either list, most of the new carlise addresses are in the township not the city proper what a scam this is
By Bob
March 26, 2008 7:12 PM | Link to this
An increase of 10-15% is not outrageous, and in fact, probably accurate. The problem is with the system. Property values for tax year 2007 are calculated based upon data from 2004-2006. All over the country values were high during that time, and fell during 2007. If we revalued every year, your taxes would have slowly climbed the past 3 years, and next year would fall. Many other states are going through the exact same thing.
By Should I Appeal
March 26, 2008 6:39 PM | Link to this
We purchased our property in June of last year for 25,000, the auditor has it appraised at 39,600, up from about 34,500 in 2006. About a 12.5 increase in value in less than 1 year.
Should I appeal?
By Big E 1
March 26, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this
ATTENTION ALL CLARK COUNTY RESIDENTS!!!
File an appeal of your property tax appraisal. The City or County is not going to help. The values are wrong, and based on faulty information. If everyone appeals maybe someone will wake up.
By DROJR
March 26, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
I checked my house with the comparisons given during purchase three years ago. Mine is 26k more in value than the purchase comparisons. I then checked what they used for comparisons and they used properties sold in the western part of Clark county and I live about a mile south of County Line Rd. Banks would not accept these comparisons why should Sodders get away with it.
By Run for the Hills
March 26, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
Where in the world do you have houses in Springfield that are overvalued. What a joke. Everything there is old. They must be talking about the houses that are in the North end of town that were built in the 70’s & 80’s were the so called rich people use to live.
By Run for the Hills
March 26, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this
Where in the world do you have houses in Springfield that are overvalued. What a joke. Everything there is old. They must be talking about the houses that are in the North end of town that were built in the 70’s & 80’s were the so called rich people use to live.
By willyd
March 26, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
Ironic - on the street that I live on, 2 of the “overvalued” houses are the (according to the Auditor’s web site)the only 2 that are undervalued. Simply Ironic………